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What Happens when People are more important than
cash?
HATTIE: Hi, I'm
Hattie Bryant. This is the place to be if you want to understand how to start,
run and grow a business. Each week, we bring you our Master Class. Men and
women, who have taken their ideas and turned them into companies that create
new products and put people to work, tell you their secrets.
Our teacher today
is Pam McNair, a little woman with big ideas and an even bigger heart.
You may not think
you have time to take care of yourself, but now you do. Pam told me the best
way for us to understand her business is to experience what she and the
Gadabout family do every day for hundreds of people.
You're going to
spend the day here with us at the spa.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
I arrive at one of the five locations of Gadabout Salon and Spas in Tucson.
Founded by Pam McNair in 1980, Gadabout provides a full range of hair, nail and
skin care and spa treatments.
JENNIFER: Hattie?
Hi. I'm Jennifer.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
Jennifer Manns, the director of spas, gets me started.
JENNIFER: Good. I'm
going to take you upstairs for your spa services.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
They plan a full day for me, which included microdermabrasion with Gloria,
muscle toning and oxygen vitamin treatment with Georgia.
GEORGIA: ...feel
the muscles...
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
...a seaweed mask with Pamela, stone therapy with Terry, a goat-butter soft
pack with Alan, a pedicure with Dawn and Candy and a haircut with Laurie.
Unlike the noisy salon, the spa is quiet and dimly lit. So the candles and the
ancient water pitcher and the brocade couch, it's all about...
PAM McNAIR:
Ambiance and feeling.
(Voiceover)
Gadabout is a day spa, the type of spa which is seeing the fastest growth.
PAM: When we
started, we had just a full-service salon. HATTIE: All right. PAM: And over the
years, we've moved into what you now refer to as a day spa, which tries to
mimic itself by what the destination spas do.
HATTIE: Oh, it's
what you call those destination spas. I couldn't think of what to call those.
OK.
PAM: I think what's
really restrictive is time because people don't have a whole lot of time and
it's very hard for someone who has several children or is trying to hold down a
job for them to find the time to go away to take care of themselves. And when
they do that, when they come home, they don't continue necessarily to take care
of themselves. That's one of the advantages of a facility like ours, is we can
not only provide you with services in one day, but we are close at hand. So if
you would like to continue the change of your lifestyle then you can connect
with the therapists and the location and the people here so that you can
continue it on a daily basis.
GLORIA: OK. So
we're going to start right up here.
HATTIE: So when did
you decide, `I want to be a hairdresser'?
PAM: Many years ago
I was a single mother. And I needed to have a vocation, and I was given the
opportunity to go to beauty school or nursing school. And nursing school took
way too long and I had always messed with hair all of my life. So I took the
advantage of going to beauty school.
HATTIE: So you had
to make a living. That's what you're saying.
PAM: Yes.
Absolutely. I was working for a woman who sold her salon, and the employees at
that salon were very disenchanted. So, at that time, I had an accident; someone
ran into the back of my car. The person didn't want me to turn it into the
insurance company. So they gave me $500, and I put it down on my first salon.
And I had people who wanted to work, and so I had a decision to make: Did I
wait until I had the money to open up a salon and then hire people, or did I
take the people that were available and try to find the financial wherewithal
to have the salon be successful.
HATTIE: Wow. That
is such a great situation because most people start a company, and they don't
know where to get the people. |
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Does The way you make a person feel will
determine your success at growing a company?
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PAMELA: I've been
with Gadabout for 14 years.
HATTIE: So what do
you like about being here?
PAMELA: Oh, gosh, a
lot. Gadabout is like a family. You know, it's like it's nice that we're all
very connected and, you know, bonded to each other. And we all help each other
out.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
Pam is a new American hero: 225 jobs, $11 million in sales. How did she do it?
She's your neighbor next door who mastered the art of team building.
JENNIFER: Pam
builds things as a team. This whole company is probably a team, so the office
naturally falls into that everybody's always bouncing everything off of
everybody. Our marketing ideas come up probably through excitement. And I think
that we're all really encouraged to have ideas.
PAM: If you feel
good about where you work, you feel good about what you do, you feel good about
who you are, you can be successful at anything you do because then you have the
ability to be an excellent service provider. You really care about the client
because someone cares about you. We have a number of programs in place that
we've worked on over the years to create a culture by which anyone who works
with Gadabout, hopefully, feels safe and calm and confident in not only what
they do, but who they are because every individual is of great importance to
this company.
HATTIE: Tell me why
you think working here is unique.
Team member:
There's many benefits: Pam, number one, of course; all your other co-workers.
They're trained, they're knowledgeable.
HATTIE: So you feel
you're working with the best of breed.
Team member: Yes,
absolutely.
HATTIE: And that
makes you probably feel proud.
Team member: Yes.
HATTIE: So many
people feel their lives are different. I mean, that's just, like, something
huge to say about a workplace.
Team member: Oh,
definitely.
Another team
member: Well, it's one place you can count on in your life. |
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Do you think deeply about what people
need?.
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PAM: One of the
things that runs rampant in our profession is low self-esteem. Now the first
person I need to work on is me because I can't teach you, train you, lead you,
care about you if I don't care about myself. So the answer to your question
isn't easy because, as all cultural changes are necessary in a company, if the
leadership is not willing to change, if simply it's just agreeing to disagree,
if it is admitting that you've made a mistake--do you realize how hard that is
for most people who run companies and how leveling that is if you have the
ability to say, `You know what? I messed up.' `What should we do about that?'
That gives confidence to the people who work with you to know that you're
honest, to know that they can trust you.
HATTIE: Because
they saw you make the mistake.
PAM: And they can
make a mistake.
HATTIE: And they
know you made it. And so if you don't admit it, they're going, `Oh, boy, there
she goes again trying to cover up.'
PAM: And so it
gives all the people you work with the ability to practice. This is all a
practice because we never get it perfect. We never get it right. And so,
therefore, if they have that opportunity to practice and have some progress,
then it gives them a safe place to be. So I really believe that there's no
quick shortcut to having a trustful environment that you can work in.
HATTIE: What is
your definition of `feel safe'? You know, people go to work at the grocery
store, they're the checker and they feel safe.
PAM: They're not
safe -- because of the things that are said and done, the assessments that are
made of them, the decisions that are made without them having a voice... People
don't feel safe in an environment where their voice isn't heard.
GLORIA: We're a
family, actually, and I think that makes a big difference.
HATTIE: What is it
about her that makes people love to work here?
GLORIA: Oh, I think
she's a great person. She stands behind us. We do a lot of education.
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Have you tried to Do it
differently?.
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HATTIE: (Voiceover)
Rather than leasing space from Pam, everyone at Gadabout is on the payroll, and
everyone earns above industry-standard dollars. New hires have completed
courses to be licensed professionals, but are considered to be interns at
Gadabout for about 18 months. But, Pam, they already went to school, they got
taught how to cut hair already.
PAM: Well, that's
true.
HATTIE: There's a
Gadabout way to do it?
PAM: Yes. We have
our own program. We have our own designs.
HATTIE: But this
isn't the way most salons work. Don't they just go to work right away?
PAM: A lot of them
do, but we want to provide our employees with as much information so they can
be as successful as possible.
LAURIE: She's
always educating us. You know, we've learned conflict management. We've learned
communications skills. |
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Is there a regular program to teach communication
skills?
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PAM: We've come up
with a conflict-resolution package, which is four steps that you take if you
work with us to resolve conflicts.
HATTIE: So everyone
goes through a class?
PAM: They went
through training, and now we have the four steps written in our policy so that
when someone has a problem, this is the way we deal with it.
HATTIE: OK, let's
role play. I've got a problem with you, Pam.
PAM: Yes.
HATTIE: What are
the steps we go through?
PAM: The first
thing you do is you feel it. You see how it feels, how you feel about it. You
don't want to respond to somebody when you're highly emotional. So you need to
calm yourself. The second thing, after you've felt it, is you need to deal with
it. You need to go to the individual and say, `Do you have a moment? I'd like
to speak to you when you're free.' So that you take yourself away from the
situation where there aren't clients or other co-workers who can hear the
conflict.
Then what you do is
you speak about it; you listen and you talk. When you're finished, you learn
from that experience. And then the hardest part of it is to let it go so that
it doesn't affect us tomorrow or the next day, or next time we have a
disagreement we're still bringing up the old things that bothered me three
months ago.
HATTIE: OK. So it's
kind of formal venting.
LAURIE: There's no
reason why I have to go home with a knot in my gut. |
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Have you establish high expectations?
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PAM: We have a
culture here, and you can't just walk into it and be hired and be part of that
culture. You have to grow into it. So everyone who comes to work for us knows
up front what our expectations are. What this allows them to do is, over the
long run of their profession, is it allows them to be in the profession longer.
It also allows them to make more money so that they're better prepared, not
just--technically, anyone can learn how to cut hair. But it's the people skills
that aren't necessarily there when you get out of school because you haven't
had the experience. So there's a number of things we have to learn.
We have training in
our skin care and nail care departments as well now. So it allows people to be
the best that they can be. In school, they teach them what they need to know to
pass the state board. Unfortunately, the state board regulations are not
necessarily consistent with what the needs of a client are, as they come in and
out of the facility.
GLORIA: I'm going
to start out doing a muscle-toning treatment. You can feel the muscles
twitching. You can actually see them moving, and that is the muscle being
stimulated and tightened. We believe in the theory of walking your talk. If
you're telling your client to do it, you have to be doing it.
PAM: I read
constantly. I'm a member of three or four national organizations, from spa to
hairdressers, with other business owners so that it's my job not to be behind.
It's my job to stay on the forefront. That's why the people work with me,
because they want to work in a salon-spa situation where we are at the
forefront of the industry.
ALAN: What you're
laying in is our soft-pack system. So what this does is helps to hydrate the
skin and to calm the skin down.
HATTIE: Do most
spas have this machine? I've never seen it.
ALAN: No. Gadabout
actually was first in the country to have this piece of equipment.
HATTIE: Talk about
a cocoon.
ALAN: Isn't it
amazing?
HATTIE: Oh, my
gosh, I feel like I'm in a cloud.
Team member: Spas
really helps one to collect their energy. Energetically, it pulls people back
into their core.
PAM: (Voiceover) We
have 14 trainers that work within our company. They work behind the chair
during the day. And then they train the assistants. We have advanced trainers
in hair, in skin and in nails so that we're constantly educating ourselves,
bringing people in from across the country, sometimes from Europe to do
classes.
Team member: Long,
sweeping motions, circles and crisscrosses around her heels. This is where, in
most women, we retain water. |
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Can you put controls in places they didn't exist
before?
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PAM: If you don't
know how to do something, you hire somebody smarter than you are in that area.
One of the things in our mission vision is that we are committed to excellence
in customer service and creative solutions. And I think creative solutions have
to come from everywhere, not just from me.
HATTIE: OK.
(Voiceover) Pam, like most small-business owners, has always played by the
rules. She knows there are no shortcuts, no easy way, just the right way.
PAM: We match their
FICA. We declare all of their income. We buy all of their products. We provide
their education. In return, they receive paychecks every two weeks, and they
have security of knowing that everything we do is open. And, actually, that
idea, that concept has really had a lot to do with the state of our industry,
and I really believe that, in the next five years, we're going to see a big
change in booth rental.
HATTIE: That's
going to go away.
PAM: It's going to
have to go away because it's a underground society.
HATTIE: Right. It's
a cash thing.
PAM: Yes, it is.
There are different agencies looking at our whole industry, and that's one part
of our industry that they're really looking at.
HATTIE: So you
think the feds may regulate you.
PAM: They will.
HATTIE: OK, that's
happening. So, again, you're ahead of the curve. Again, you're the one teaching
the world how to do this.
PAM: Well, or I
listen well.
R.J. DUFFY: She's
like a bird who has this wide wingspan, and she sweeps people with her, you
know?
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
R.J. Duffy is the CFO and joined Gadabout in 1984.
R.J.: She is not a
person that sits up here and just, `Let's do this, this and this, and you have
to do this so I can do this.' She's not that type of employer. She empowers us
and enables us and educates us to be and do what we need to be and do what we
need to do.
HATTIE: OK, you're
the CFO.
R.J.: Yes.
HATTIE: Do you ever
look at the costs of all this education and say, `We can't afford to send
Jennifer to that meeting'?
R.J.: Yes, I do.
HATTIE: `Yes, I
do.'
R.J.: Yes, I do,
and we've had these conversations, and invariably the end cost justifies the
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Are you doing for employees what you do for
customers?
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PAM: Sometimes we
open up the salon in the evening and allow the people to trade services. Or, if
you can work something out on your off time with a technician in another
department, that's find.
HATTIE: Well, to
me, that's a great benefit. And one of the hard things about getting and
keeping people is nurturing them, and that's what I've heard you're so good at.
And I want to talk about that.
PAM: If you don't
keep the people who are service providers healthy, they can't help the client
become healthy. So one of the premises we have in our company is we have to do
for the internal clients what we do for the external clients.
Team member: This
is where we get our perks, in many ways. Even though we're nurturing other
people, we also nurture each other. So we get nurturing at the same time.
PAM: When people
work with you, you have to be willing to take care of them first before your
clients, if you want your clients to be satisfied. I really believe that the
community takes care of all of us, and in order for us to be taken care of, we
need to give back to the community that gives to us. And it's very cyclical. If
I don't give it, I'm not going to get it. Anyone who's worked for us for 10
years or more--and we started this about five years ago--we have formed
committees within that group; there's almost 50 of us now.
HATTIE: Wow.
PAM: And so you can
be on the Environment Committee, the Community Service. A simple thing like--we
use latex gloves to do a lot of our treatments. They came up with a concept of
using reusable gloves. So we saved 15,000 pairs of gloves that we didn't use in
a quarter and kept them out of the environment, as well as didn't have to
purchase them. So they work on things like that. And then at the end of the
year, they're judged on a point system, and we share up to 20 percent of our
net profits with them.
HATTIE: Now, I
agree, I've been around all day and she is amazing, but I want to know, from
spending eight years with her, why do you continue to--are you going to cry
now?
JENNIFER: (Nods
yes)
HATTIE: It's OK. I
do it all the time. Why is it that that feeling comes to you when someone says,
`What is it that's so great about her?' I mean, why does it make you feel that
way?
JENNIFER: She's
totally invested in the people who work for her. She works for the people who
work for her. And I'm among a large number of people who've had the opportunity
to completely transform their lives working here.
HATTIE: What do you
mean? Like the way you see the world?
JENNIFER: Are you
going to cry?
HATTIE: Yes. Has
she opened up a bigger window for you?
JENNIFER: What
exactly is it? It's probably that she doesn't do things with ego. I've learned
how to communicate with people and to do my job in a way that reflects the
greatness of the people who I work with. And that's something that Pam teaches;
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The Lightbulb:
Are you as the owner ready to become a
minister, social worker and therapist?What is real leadership?
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HATTIE: At
Gadabout, employees told me over and over, `Pam saved my life. Pam changed my
life. If I hadn't met Pam, I don't know what shape my life would be in today.'
And these people are not talking about a beauty makeover. Can the owner of a
company have the same effect on people as a minister or a priest or a surgeon
or a therapist? These employees have been profoundly affected by Pam, and I
conclude that the answer is yes. We've learned in business that the customer is
king, but if you grow past the point where you, the owner, are no longer
delivering all the customer service, how do you guarantee that every employee
learns that the customer's king? Just as Herb Kelleher of Southwest Airlines
teaches, Pam treats the employees like kings and queens. The leadership theory
is employees will treat customers the way employees are treated by you. Rather
than pouring all of your energy into customer service, if you want to grow,
start pouring all of your energy into employee service. You'll be rewarded with
loyalty because people don't leave where they're loved. |
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Do you delegate with a Design?
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PAM: If all I do is
take from the company, then that's all I'm going to get. I have to be able to
be liquid enough that I can do the things necessary when the time is right. I
also have to pay attention to the long term. My passion was never short term.
So it's not like I'm going to do this for a little while, and then I'm going to
stop and do something else. I think that the more energy and effort you put
into a company, your energy needs to be equal to your pay. I mean, I remember
10 years ago I looked at my salary and thought I had hairdressers
working for me who were making more than I was so I really had to look
at that and adjust it and say, `This isn't equitable.'
But at the same
time, there has to be money left in your company; it's a question of
flexibility.... ff I'm not flexible to move when I need to move or do what I
need to do....
HATTIE: And money
makes you flexible.
PAM: Yes, it does.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
The theme here is nurture. Pam nurtures the Gadabout family, and they nurture
their clients. What you don't see so easily, but you would if you became a
regular client, is this place is about the inside of people more than the
outside.
Team member: It
really opens people up inside. It's actually a sacred Indian ritual. It's been
done for probably 6,000 years.
PAM: Well, I think
you have to look at the all-over picture, check and see if your mission and
your vision is there, and then you need to get out of the way. You need to be
able to delegate with a design so that other people can duplicate what
you do or do it better. I'm not the star; I build stars. So it allows other
people to be in the forefront, and it allows me to have the time to do what I
need to do to make them look better and to be better.
HATTIE: What keeps
you jazzed?
PAM: Oh, all my
family and all my friends and my husband and just life. I think living on
purpose is what keeps me jazzed.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
Yes, clients leave looking good, but more than that, clients leave feeling
good. A sense of calm and well-being is discovered in that deep, soulful place
we each have. The Gadabout visit reminds us that real beauty comes from the
inside.
Connected
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
Jennifer manages the Web site. Visitors to the site find locations, services,
products, gift ideas and prices on the Web. It's appealing and easy to use.
Good job.
JENNIFER: We
launched a website in '96, and we really revamped it and reintroduced it in
'99. We spent about $15,000 for the initial setup. Our upkeep is about $40 a
month.
HATTIE: That's all?
JENNIFER: That's
all. We're e-commerce, so we are fully prepared to sell all of our products,
but our big focus on the Web site was selling gift certificates.
HATTIE: And it
still is true today that...
JENNIFER: It's
still true today. (Voiceover) I think, for us, it was an area that we could see
the most immediate return. It was an area we were focusing a lot of energy on
in the salons and through the phone. So it became a very natural link to work
on it with. We try to have a very spa-oriented Web site that, as you travel
through it, you get the essence of what spa services are about and the
uniqueness of a spa gift.
HATTIE: (Voiceover)
To attract and keep great people, try Pam's method. Meet the needs of employees
holistically. Be part minister, social worker, teacher and therapist. You'll be
rewarded with loyalty because people don't leave where they're loved.
We'll see you next
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