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Attract A Courageous
Team
In the Studio
HATTIE: Hi.
I'm Hattie Bryant. If you want to understand how businesses are built and how
they grow, stay with us for the next 30 minutes. You'll learn about business
and the people who build them. These people are heroes because they are
courageous, creative, self-reliant and strong.
On
television, you see many celebrities, but don't confuse celebrity with heroism.
In fact, most heroes will never be celebrities and most celebrities will never
be heroes.
We'll show
you what true heroism is.
It's going
where others have never gone. It's overcoming obstacles. It's living with
ambiguity. It's tapping into inner strength. It's believing you are capable of
making good happen for yourself and others.
Steve Palko
and Bob Simpson are new American heroes. Living on the edge of the West, they
have grown up admiring the cowboy and the pioneer. They are like those who
first settled here: independent and brave.
The history
of oil is like the history of the frontier; it is written by pioneers who love
open spaces, who value independence, and who are optimistic and willing to take
risks. Like the roughnecks they employ, Steve Palko and Bob Simpson love the
stuff of which the oil and gas business is made. In the tradition of the
wildcatters, but with a unique strategy and discovery techniques not available
in the early days of oil exploration, they are growing a business. The two
formed Cross Timbers oil in 1986 with eight employees who believed in the
future enough to work for almost nothing. They changed the company name to XTO
Energy in 2001 and by 2003 they had over 900 employees.
XTO Energy,
once Cross Timbers Oil Company, is beating the odds.
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Go With Your Strengths
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STEVE PALKO:
I've worked for a variety of major and independent oil companies.
HATTIE:
(Voice over) Steve is the engineer; Bob, the CPA strategist.
(To Bob) Is
there a romance to you about the oil and gas business?
BOB SIMPSON:
Yeah, there is a romance.

You know,
people ask me how I got in it, and rather than some elaborate answer, it's
probably as simple this: When I was a little boy, my father was a cotton farmer
in west Texas. He would drive up and down the road, and he would point at pump
jacks. And he said, `Son, I almost bought that land, and if I had, we'd have
been wealthy as royalty.' So, I ended up associating success and prosperity
with oil, and I liked the smell of the gas tank when we were filling up.
HATTIE: Did
you really?
BOB: I liked
to smell the gas, yes.
My parents
really taught me responsibility. I grew up in an agrarian atmosphere where I
had my own chores. As a young man, I started my own businesses. You know, my
mother laughs; I had an egg route when I was four.
HATTIE: Eggs
when you were four!
BOB: When I
was four, yes.
HATTIE: You
would take your mother's eggs and...
BOB: I had my
own hens (you know that it was totally subsidized -- I didn't know what the
economics were), but I just marketed eggs door to door at twice their price.
And I really thought it was my product. And people bought them. It was probably
more because I was four years old.
But I was
intuitively and instinctively an entrepreneur and interested in business. But
my parents -- my mother's still alive, my father passed away -- they were very
proud people, very hard-working people. Dad would say, `So it's a holiday?
We're still working.' But that taught me self-responsibility.
I was an
academic person. Grades were my deal. I went to Baylor on the full
scholarships.
HATTIE: Math
was your game.
BOB: Math,
and I like liberal arts -- English -- as well.
HATTIE: So
you could do both words and numbers! That's good.
BOB: It's an
accident! But, I appreciate the arts; I was an academic person. I asked my
mother one time, `You know, Mom, I don't remember you helping me with my
homework.' And she says, `Well, you never asked.' I said, ` I was hoping it was
more complicated than that. But apparently, it's my nature, `If it's my job,
I'll do it.'
HATTIE:
Independent.
BOB:
Independent.
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Tell Your Story With
Passion
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STEVE: We've
always been achievers. As Bob puts it, `It wasn't so much that I wanted to make
A's. It was that I didn't want to make a B.'
I guess the
era that I grew up in was the era of the big corporation, and there were a lot
of opportunities in the industry. New companies were starting. Small companies
were aggressively expanding and growing.

And then
there was an opportunity to get out of the big company and the big-company
routine and get to a smaller enterprise with more of an entrepreneurial
attitude -- an opening was created for vice president of engineering or I guess
at that time, it was manager of engineering. So I interviewed for the job and
went to work at Southland, which was a major independent at that time.
HATTIE: You
were young.
STEVE: I
guess about 30.
HATTIE: Wow.
OK. But then something happened. You're sitting there at your desk, just doing
your business, trying to make the company grow, and you get an announcement
from some law firm that you're going to be taken over or bought out. How did
that work?
STEVE:
Really, you get a call from the company that has a strategic number of your
shares, and they announce their intentions, `Well, we need to talk because we
have 9 1/2 percent of your shares.' The SEC requires that you be under 10
percent, or announce your intentions. So at that point, they had to talk to us.
And they said, `Our intention is to purchase your company.'
HATTIE: Were
you angry?
STEVE: Oh,
yes. It's your life. It's something that you've put a lot of emotion and hard
work into. You look forward to a future of continued growth and prosperity. All
of a sudden, someone says, `It's over. We are going to buy your company. We
have our own vice presidents and presidents, thank you very much.'
HATTIE: `We
don't need you.'
STEVE: Right.
HATTIE: Is it
like someone stealing your child?
STEVE: No,
but it's more like someone breaking into your house and stealing all your
furniture . . . maybe stealing your house probably is a more apt analogy. You
feel violated. You feel disoriented. I mean, you're knocked off balance.
You've heard
the sculpture story? That statue is a cowboy torn up, gun missing, riding off
into the sunset with a fist raised.
HATTIE:When
you saw it, you didn't have any money to buy it, but you still bought it.
STEVE:
Absolutely. That was the spirit. `I'll Be Back!' is the name of the statue, and
that's how we felt. First two years, maybe even three, we didn't have salaries.
We used our own furniture for office furniture. You know, we brought things
from the house to basically get things started. And so the early years were
lean years.
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Make A Bold Statement
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HATTIE:
(Voiceover) Cross Timbers now owns this building in downtown Ft. Worth, part of
the history of oil and a symbol for this company. It was built in 1911 by oil
and cattle baron W.T. Waggoner and was the tallest building west of the
Mississippi.
BOB: He
(Waggoner) was a famous oil man, but he was first a rancher. His father came to
Texas in the 1800s and staked out hundreds of thousands of acres and resisted
oil and gas. They were kind of forced into the business by circumstance and, as
it turned out, became very wealthy through oil and gas, but in a low-risk
manner as royalty owners.
And so then
he became more of a traditional wildcatter once he had the base.
This is a
conservative strategy in those times; he was a risk-taker with a very
conservative land holding and a base of royalty income, so in his day, that
would have been the optimal position: `I'm not gonna go broke.'
BOB: You
know, confidence was 90 percent of the equation of success. The last 10
percent's ability. So the romance of oil and gas is associated with this
building. You know, oil and gas will always be popular, always draw investors
because it's the search for gold. But you can go broke doing it.
If you spend
all your money looking for gold and don't find any, you'll be broke. So what we
like to do is offer that allure, like the Waggoners did off of a conservative
base where you can't go broke and where we can only enhance ourselves if we do
it appropriately.
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Use Technology To Reduce
Risk
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HATTIE:
(Voiceover) Keith Hutton is a petroleum engineer and calculates risk.
KEITH HUTTON:
(Voiceover) There's a finite amount of oil and gas, so that'll always decline.
What you're really looking for is an area where it declines slowly, which
probably means there's more in the ground in that particular area.
We look for a
company selling properties that we think shouldn't be selling, that have a lot
of upside but have been undermanaged for a while. Not to knock those particular
companies, but to them, it's small potatoes. Then, we'll pay a pretty
good-sized amount of money for that property, but the key is, if that property
has the right attributes, we normally increase the return on it.
We usually
find 60 percent more reserves than what were thought to be on the property.
One of the
things that happened when we bought a property producing about 1,000 barrels a
day-- by the end of this year, it's 2,900 barrels a day.
HATTIE:
You've tripled it.
KEITH: ...triple production.
HATTIE: So
you're pretty good at knowing where to drill.
KEITH: Yes,
we are. Our success ratio has averaged about 97 percent every year, which means
97 percent of the wells that we drill find oil and gas.
HATTIE:
Doesn't that sound astounding? I mean, isn't that just like -- how can that be?
How can you get it so right?
KEITH: It's
basically the type of drilling that we do. What we're doing is drilling wells
where oil and gas already exists.
TECHNICIAN:
There's been big advances that have occurred in the oil and gas business; it's
really revolutionized exploration and development. The computer. Since about
1990, the big thing in geophysics has been the advent of 3-D seismic.
(Pointing to
an illustration) This is a well right here that's been drilled. It's a dry
hole, OK? I can pull up that line and take the well information and create a
synthetic seismic section from the well information.
(With this
new technology dry holes often become productive again by redrilling in a
slightly different direction than the original hole. The soil samples from the
old hole provide the key seismic data.)
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Use Other People's Money To Launch
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BOB: In any
business, there are many roads. You know in our business, you can go to Mexico,
Texas, offshore. There're just all kinds of variables that you can choose. And
what we chose is what we knew and had learned in our prior career, that we want
these basins -- Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico -- really long-life properties.

HATTIE: And
somebody else doesn't want them.
BOB: And
somebody else thought it was all over. So what we do is take our talent and
look for the missed nuggets. And we've been very successful at that. But what
you get in our strategy is lesser risk than drilling a wildcat. And, as it
turns out, there is virtually no risk in an otherwise -- depending on your
strategy -- very risky business. I mean, you can be broke in a hurry in this
business. So what we've done is take a strategy which, in our minds, is
failure-proof and then make it better. And so we were able to pause in hard
times because we had a strategy that would not put us out of business.
The most
likely way you'll fail is if you're not properly capitalized . . . you have a
good idea with no staying power. It's just like anything in life whether you're
in the market or in commodities or in a business, capitalization is probably
the killer issue.
HATTIE:
Staying power -- where does that come from?
BOB: Staying
power is both your will and again, your financial resources. You know, don't
get out there too far if you can't afford to be there. If it's a 50/50 idea,
don't just get one swing at the bat; you need two.
HATTIE: Why
did you go public?
BOB: I would
say we didn't have a choice. If you go back and look at our background, this
particular one, our godfather's Bob Rubin, former Secretary of the Treasury. He
raised the seed money in a couple hours, $35 million. And that group of people
wants to liquefy or harvest.
HATTIE: They
want to cash out.
BOB: In five
years. We were in our sixth and then our seventh. So from our viewpoint, we
could either sell the company and harvest or go public and let those people
harvest. And so the initial decision was, `Which would you rather do?' And
obviously we wanted to continue the company. This was a right answer for both
parties.
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Use Other People's Money To
Grow
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HATTIE: Louis
Baldwin is chief financial officer and talks about going public.
LOUIS
BALDWIN: We felt like that was the best way to maximize the value for our
investors.
HATTIE: For
the other investors, the private investors.
LOUIS: That's
right. And we were a private investor, just like we're a public investor now.
Oil and gas is not a growth business. Oil demand in the US goes up about 1
percent a year; gas, 2 percent or 2 1/2 percent a year.
HATTIE: Why
did you start a business in an industry that isn't growing?
LOUIS: It's
what we knew how to do. And I would say that most of the people that are
starting businesses or are successful are doing what they know how to do. And
if it's a growth industry, that's great. But you can be a successful start-up
and growth firm in an industry that doesn't have a lot of underlying growth. If
you can determine what niche of it you want to play and you've got a good plan,
you can grow.
We started
with eight employees of Cross Timbers. We went public in '93 with about 40
million barrels of oil reserves. With four years we're close to 200 million
barrels. So somewhere in there, we were growing. And the real hard part is
not only to grow but to grow profitably -- to make sure that you're making
money for your investors, not just getting bigger by issuing more stock -- and
we've done that.
HATTIE:
Louis' daughter, Laura, wrote her undergraduate thesis at the University of
Texas on what she saw her father living through, "The Decision To Go Public and
the Initial Public Offering." In the introduction, she says, `There are only
two reasons to go public: to raise capital and to provide liquidity to selling
shareholders.' She also points out that the process is complicated and
expensive and should only be undertaken when the company can demonstrate clear
growth potential.
We suggest
going public with your eyes wide open. It's not easy and changes entirely the
way you do business.
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Turn Employees Into
Owners
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HATTIE: How
do you motivate employees who work here to work harder to make money for other
people? You just said the goal is to increase the shareholder value.
LOUIS: Most
employees are owners of the company. They own the stock, either through
outright purchases, through our stock-incentive plans, or through the 401(k)
where they can buy stock or any other investment for that matter, and we match
it. We give them dollar for dollar. So we encourage employees to do that, and
it makes a real difference.
BOB: The
worst problem you can have anywhere is people problems. Nobody likes to fire
anybody. And so if you've got to fire somebody, your mind becomes preoccupied
with it; you dread it. You spend the week doing that. So if you have people
that are great in what they do -- no personnel problems -- you don't get
distracted from the mission, you're running together, and you know the company
hits the ground running.
RICK SEEDS:
This is the best collection of people of any company I've ever seen.
HATTIE: A
friend of Bob's for 25 years, Rick Seeds has just joined Cross Timbers.

RICK: I think
at some organizations, they've been stifled so much. Their creativity is taken
away from them . . . if you come up with an idea and no one wants to do it, why
come up with another idea?
HATTIE: Is
there a way for you to reward ideas?
RICK: I don't
think there's a way to reward specific ideas. I think there's a way to reward
general performance and accomplishment of corporate goals that everybody's
working toward. And I think that's one thing that Bob and Steve have done a
great job of, is making sure that everybody in this company knows exactly where
we're all headed. And so you don't have people in the boat rowing in a
different direction.
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Do What You Know With Whom You
Know
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The Lightbulb In the
Studio
HATTIE: Do
what you know with whom you know. Seems simple, but all great ideas are simple.
When Bob and Steve were ousted from Southland Royalty by a hostile takeover,
they took a breath and started over doing the same thing with many of the same
people. They had built Southland Royalty and established themselves in the oil
and gas business. They had longstanding relationships with people who trusted
them and whom they could trust. When they were ready to start Cross Timbers, it
only took a few hours to raise the start-up funds, and people lined up to
follow them wherever they were going to go. On this program, you've learned if
you have a good idea, the most important ingredient to success in business is
people. Starting with nothing, working on borrowed furniture, Bob and Steve
attracted people such as Louis Baldwin, who was willing to bet on the come. No
one took salary in the early days because everyone had faith.
Bob and Steve
had done it before, and they could do it again.
Do what you
know with whom you know, and you'll build a better business faster.
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Think Positive
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We went to
far west Texas, Andrews County, to a Cross Timbers field to see a new chapter
in their success story.

Unidentified
Man #1: (Voiceover) We're drilling a hole at about 7,400 feet right now. They
use well logs off the existing wells out here, ones that have already been
drilled. They use seismic data. And all that is incorporated into picking a
location to drill, where you have the best chance for success.
HATTIE:
(Voiceover) I haven't asked anybody: "Why the name Cross Timbers?"
LOUIS:
(Voiceover) Cross Timbers refers to the region that's a dividing area between
west Texas and east Texas. It's an area of broken forest. In the 1800s, the
Indians and Comanches primarily roamed the western Plains, and the piney woods
were occupied by settlers and the Cross Timbers land was no man's land. If the
settlers got over there, they were subject to being killed. And the Indians
raided through the Cross Timbers. Actually there's not a lot of oil and gas in
the Cross Timbers . . . we don't have any operations there. But it does
symbolize the history of Ft. Worth and of Texas and the heritage of being a
Texan and being in the oil business.
HATTIE: Tell
me about this new cap you've got.
LOUIS: This
is a cap that just shows XTO; that's our stock symbol. It is an interesting
contrast between the hard hat, the real roots of the company, but we also need
Wall Street and the investors as a way to value the company.
STEVE: A
favorite expression in the oil field is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." We
don't let people say that. We want them to say, "Even if it's not broke, can it
be better? How good could it be?"
BOB: It's
more important to me to have fun and to be with talented bright people, if you
will, than to have more money.
HATTIE: Do
you think that having big ideas makes people bigger people?
STEVE:
Absolutely. Absolutely. And not being afraid to go down a brand-new road. We're
not afraid of change. We're not afraid of a changing environment. And, we're
not worried that whatever the circumstances are that we can't figure out a way
to make the best of it.
BOB: You know
one of the things that we do, in the adversity of the day and of the moment, is
to know that it'll be better later, and believe that. You've got to believe
that, because you're gonna defy the odds and you're gonna succeed. I don't care
the odds are you won't, but you're gonna defy them and you know that even on
your bad days. And so the way you think where you'll end is a lot about ending
there.
STEVE: My
hope is at the end of the time that people say it mattered that Steve Palko was
here. That Bob Simpson or Louis Baldwin or the rest of that there was something
that was better because they were here.
HATTIE:
Remember, do what you know with whom you know, and you'll build a better
business faster.
Join us next
week.
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